i want you to listen to how jay carney handled that. >> on the wisconsin situation, congressman ellison and others have called for the president to come out to wisconsin and stand with the workers. is that under discussion? >> not that i'm aware of, chip. i think what we have made pretty clear is that the president thinks and we think, he stated this, that obviously a lot of states in the union are dealing with fiscal issues, big problems in their state budgets that need to be addressed and they need to act responsibly, tighten their belts, live within their means, just as we in washington, the executive branch in congress, need to do with our federal situation. >> jim hoffa, the administration seems very comfortable talking about the need to tighten belts, the kinds of things, kinds of concessions that your union, brothers and sisters have already made, the financial concessions in wisconsin.